bona natural seal on white oak

WebWe just installed 5 white oak throughout our home. The refinisher must take the time and the money to go to a Bona 3-day training work shop. @Ryan Danielson, I just told my cabinet maker to go ahead and order my cabinet doors in the rift oak so I've only got a couple of weeks to get this figured out. The floors are super dusty in this photo as the soffits were just removed. It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. Houzz uses cookies and similar technologies to personalise my experience, serve me relevant content, and improve Houzz products and services. I did a lot of research before deciding on what product to use and how many top coats to use. Should a distributor be able to walk me through using this product for more details? The good news is the installer will have learned his lesson: do NOT under bid a project just to win it. (It looks a little pink on my IPad - its not in real life. We love our floors! The solid white D e k t o n didnt clean up as well as Neolithic or Corian. However, I think the maintenance is much harder than what I previously had - natural red oak with a higher sheen. I can see the installer has the ABILITY to do make this finish workhe just ran out of time and money because of his bid (which was too low for full glue). Another thread I found talks about Rubio mono coat. It is 3/4 x 5 solid white oak hardwood. There's nothing wrong with making a minor mistake, nor with owning up to it. Hi M, thank you! Paint them over a piece of white paper and the finish turns orange all by itself! All the questions and answers have been helpful to me when I have come looking, so I wanted to post photos from today that will possibly help others choose. The NaturalSeal will offer the closest to the 'raw look' you are after. I'm sorry you felt diminished. @tkgriff Thanks for sharing the photos. WebBona NaturalSeal is designed to be the foundation or first coat of a three-coat water-based system, so dont just use it for all your layers, thinking you are being clever and saving money. Don't change chemical companies in the middle of a refinish. @skru33 Thanks! Bona Intense Seal Bona Classic Seal Bona Neutral Seal DuraSeal Weathered Oak Stain DuraSeal Silvered Gray Stain Bona Drifast Stain The Finish We Chose You may not be aware of the fact that white oak floors do not need to be stained. :). Many customers like a dark stain because it looks modern and the floor is easy to decorate. It will not etch like Marble, but has a marble like appearance. When I see Nordic in photos it looks beautiful, but I dont think I want a white wash. WebBona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. Did G & S need to tell me, Well see how long this finish lasts? No. It has been a nightmare trying to find this look in my area. I have about 735 sf. Also, the guy said they usually apply the sealer one day, then one or two finish coats the next day (running into the 3rd day depending on how it dries). It is slightly better than a oil base polyurethane system. Unfortunately I don't remember how many layers of each. Part of me wishes we went satin finish bc I realized I do like a little sheen on a floor (just washed look). I have seen plenty of samples of his work. Just my 2 cents worth but typically, OAK flooring will shrink/expand ACROSS the grain it's usually pretty stable end to end, as with most hardwood species. I adore the light color, but every little water spot shows, or a splash of spilled coffee. Thanks! Which one did you end up going with? Thank you for posting a picture! This is not designed to be the tough outer layer I am attempting to coordinate real white oak with white oak LVPthe unfinished white oak is an amazing match to the Paradigm Conquest Windsor and Towerwanting to basically stain/seal the posts and rails in a way that changes the natural state the least, neutralizing any weed tones. This looks to be pretty natural with a very matte finish. Gravity works. Another problem was that the Bona guy I called was not familiar with Loba products, and I am considering both. (Thank you @Joseph Corlett for giving me the confidence to use Corian and to Heartwood Solid Surfaces for doing the work.) If it does nothing: Take a piece of masking tape (not painters tape). Dry finish. You can see how the quartz is not as white as the countertop. I'll be sure to question about their history with using bona in the past. When I put the natural stain on my floor it looks gray. Thank you, I don't know the specific name of it. I have read through almost every post here looking to see how to get the most natural finish without yellowing. did you have a contract or at least an email stating you wanted white oak? @Jonathan Margareten Hi. @Elaine Gauthier Art Did you find any solution or larger cabinet maker that has the white oak? So in my mind better to research and ask questions than not. So I suppose its even better than 3 coats in 3 days as I originally thought given your advice. I think of a coat of sealant as 1/2 a coat of finish. Any ideas on stain/stain combos and sealants to make it happen? They are not even good choices for low care floors. I dont recall the price of the lumber / the price our builder charged us (he ordered it on his account). How 'cheap' do you want to go with something that important? A 2 minute working time is EXTREME. @SJ McCarthy @mtpo I did hire an installer who installed my floor and was supposed to refinish it. They look closer to the raw wood tone. All of their materials will have to be paid for (as part of your contract), but it can be done. Dear Doane, A well established hardwood flooring company (a "ma and pa" type store) will have the big machines to get the product off of your floor. Thank you for suggesting Bona Mega One. I talked to the contractor and told him that I had to figure out a different finish. Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. Curtains will block the bookcase. It can work with a range of subfloors, including concrete, Looking for something different from an all-white kitchen? MEANWHILE earlier in the process I had contacted the main Corian wholesaler for the East Coast, and had gotten the name of a fabricator in my area. Yep. The cost is nothing compared to the durability it will give. I've seen professionals with 40 years experience ruin a water based applicationtwice. The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. They just came out with the same wood thats 1/8 inch thinner as an option. are you happy with it 2+ years later (and is it holding up well with food/oil stains etc) please share any details, like if you had 2 or 3 coats. @Mary Elizabeth I think we have narrowed it down to Ciranova's products..after testing theirs, Rubio Monocoat and several Pallman's waxes, plus a number of normal stains. I always keep at least 100 bundles of stone in stock that I personally hand pick so I purchase thousands of slabs a year. (The Classic has less of a haze.) Some 5 white oak with Bona Natural Seal and Hd traffic extra matte. The correct answer should be "nothing at all". Ahhhh. They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. Bona NaturalSeal has a bit of white pigment (less than NordicSeal). , So your final finish was 1 coat of Nordic Seal with 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin? It honestly looks just like our white oak (unstained, natural) - I wish I could leave it without sealer etc. and any photos would be most appreciated I like the bona nordic white look in the 2nd photo (thats covering about 20 wood squares) is that the semi-gloss Loba, (or perhaps raw, freshly sanded parquet - that is the look i'm going for my wood finger parquet, lightened / whitewashed with the red/yellow/ambering removed and the seal to be almost matte. I am posting some final outcome pictures in different rooms and lighting. Weve been in the house with our two pups a little over a year now and the floors are holding up - so far, so good. We are having the same dilemma with our cabinets. Just found out distributors only sale in gallon sizeso its not going to be an option for metoo expensive to pay for gallons in seal and finish just to test it. Bona Traffic HD is 10 times EASIER to find (but a snick harder to work with). I hope some of this information is helpful. I have read so many wood floor horror stories. The info is helpful and Im discerning enough to sort out immature comments. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? The 'big boys' of the finishing industry are 2-3 times more expensive than DuraSeal (and for good reason) which means the professionals will make less money. :), @bowmeister67 and @widdy23 I used exactly what bowmeister said , 1 coat of Bona Nordic seal and 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin. We went with the Bona Nordic and Traffic HD. Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? If you read the question carefully, you would understand I answered that the last coat of finish was applied Saturday. I personally love Quartzite. Houzz utilise des cookies et d'autres technologies de suivi similaires pour personnaliser mon exprience utilisateur, me proposer du contenu pertinent et amliorer ses produits et services. A gallon of Varathane = $80 (Home Depot). @J Sk did you use natural sealer or natural stain? WebWhite Oak Kitchen Cabinets - Bona NaturalSeal? Yes, Trump2 I agree. I would have loved to find a simpler, cheaper, regular old stain, but they just don't give me the same look I'm trying to achieve. Heres a photo of our 7 Norwegian white oak before sanding or any sealer. I love the natural, light color of the hardwood. I believe there is a local one and I plan to at least explore that. Thats a problem Im left with and he wrote that message to me, not the hardwood installer. @Lisa Pearen it would help with identification if you post photos. Im happy with the color. My builders subs didnt handle either material and just about everyone except @Joseph Corlett (who regularly comments on Houzz) grimaced when I mentioned Corian. I also have some design software that may help with your need. Sure, white kitchens are beautiful when theyre sparkling clean. 3 coats of HD.I am OOT so will post photos when I get home. @Moran Blueshtein, We are having about 3500 sq feet of the wood installed and finished plus stairs. I love your base molding, where do you buy that from? Thanks for taking the time to write all that! WebMy new white oak floors have 1 coat of Bona Natural Seal and 2 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin. True Quartzite is higher on the mohl's scale of hardness then granite. Any specific fillers recommended for the knots & gaps ? He installed the floors beautifully, but installed red oak even though I showed him a sample of pre-finished white stained white oak. I acknowledged that there would be an upcharge for the TrafficHD and expected it. But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? So far, this seems to be going well. D Debra Travis Red Oak Hardwood Floors Installing Hardwood Floors Natural Wood Flooring Decoration We refinishing the floor and apply natural seal from bona and top coat bona mega one satin D its been so long since I posted - Id have to read through my old posts to recall the sealer we used. I wasnt wild about any of the patterns. Mega One is a clear non-yellowing finish. They are very unforgiving and I can't imagine these floors in a house with kids and a dog. And finally, a 'fit' *might include costs.but it should be much lower on the list than you might think. Yes, thsts bleached and toned oak with a matte finish. She lucked out and her floors look pretty good. Came out a little lighter, but it all depends on your preference. Thanks for sharing these pictures - they look great! There are a couple places where either a dogs nail or something created a tiny gouge all the way through to the wood - so the Bona is not impermeable. I am hoping this Sherwin Williams product won't yellow over time. Its a shame since it could be helpful for others. Some Quartzites are more grainy which make them more porous. Most of the base cabinets are covered with cardboard to protect them. I prefer to see 3 coats of the finishbut the Bona sealants are designed to be 'film building' sealants so they will add to the performance. I checked Durasupreme and they have white oak but not in the shade we like. If you you know you are doing something we offer on floor samples (3x3) in many combinations and finishes. We have only had our cabinets for about a month so I cant speak to long term durability yet but they turned out gorgeous. Hard to believe contractors would use your countertops as work bench! Due to it's ingredients, It is mainly used for custom color mixes with dyes and Bona's sport paint line for insane color schemes. The floors are being installed and finished by Brazilian Floors (they have several locations in the D.C. metro area). By the way, did you use any fillers to fill the knots and gaps between the planks? Then the next day a coat of finish. He will then send the sample to a Sherwin Williams Product Finishes Store and they will match the sample. (Ive read LOTS of old posts!). We have one big space kitchen, then dining area with doors to exterior, then the family room. If a few hundred dollars (or even more), meant the difference between loving my finished product and hating it, I felt having samples was well worth the cost. White streaks in floor. I hope they hold up to daily use. Trying to make this choice right now(within the next two hours- yikes! It sounds like this does a really good job at what we are both after. Which means something is sitting on, grinding down, pressing into or just plain 'sitting on' your floors every second of every day. Also I highly suggest getting big samples done with all the coatings. I have a small house and should have maximized flow but didn't realize just how much planning that would take at once. Can you also please send a picture of the floors with the seal and traffic HD? Please help on base, crown, window, door molding size decision. I have a dog that has an occasional accident. I looked at the bona product and it states it contains a small amount of white pigment? The webpages say that Classic "highlights the natural color of the wood" while Natural is "designed to retain the appearance of unfinished wood" but having seen the raw, sanded wood which was remarkably gray, I don't know how the latter is possible. I personally see dolomite and dense sandstones misrepresented as Quartzite more then any other material. The reason: they turn orange. And dont go forward unless they are willing to give you samples with ALL the finished coats. Eager to see what you chose and how it turned out. En cliquant sur Accepter , j'accepte l'utilisation des cookies telle qu'elle est dcrite plus en dtail dans la Politique d'Utilisation des Cookies de Houzz. I forgot to take a photo of the hand made air vent the installers made for the floor vent. Yeah, thats what I am realizing. They are one of my very favorite things in my (soon to be) new house. Matte looks a bit dull. ), Share pics of white oak hardwood floors stained with Bona (1st home!). I'm thinking of using HI-MACS LG Hausys solid surface countertops, which I think is similar to Corian. His maternal grandfather, Justice Thomas Smith, had been for many years a prominent lawyer and a distinguished judge in Philadelphia, and his maternal great-uncle, the Rev. I asked him to bring natural finish tomorrow, Im torn between natural and classic. Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. Have a wet rag handy to wipe away mistakes and drips. As for the cost of install$5/sf with FULL SPREAD glue + stain + sanding + finish (materials extra) is on the low side. Any suggestions on deciding one over the other? So much to consider and my cabinet maker doesn't seem to be able to recreate what I am looking for. Our contractor informed me that it is significantly more expensive, $2500 more expensive. The main thing to worry about when it comes to Quartzite is if it is actually a true Quartzite. I could also put hot pots on the stainless. We told the company to put 3 coats of the Bona product on the floors. It will 'deepen' the colour you see (ie. We were advised to wait until the economy rebounds. Erfahren Sie hierzu mehr in der Houzz Cookie-Richtlinie. One coat Bona Natural Seal A very slight natural stain similar to the white oak color of our floors. I think we found a good match. @Abigail Barber Burgum you can just go to their website to find the nearest dealer to you. Just just had solid white oak #2 flooring installed in my den. Really not read much about IntenSeal? The white background wasnt a true white but it wasnt bad and the marbling was pretty. They have little to no chemical resistance. The least porous Quartzites are actually called crystalline Quartzites. Our hardwood installer and contractor use DuraSeal products often and Bona Mega. Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? If you said you wanted the look of 'raw wood' then matte is what they would have brought. They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. NordicSeal is going to give you a white frosting. white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances? I'm actually impressed he is putting up with me and my ideas - lol. It looks like you have SOLID 5" (that ranks as wide plank = glue assist) White Oak. Although, it can be used as a stand alone sealer. Brazilian Floors did the installation and finishing. I love your wall and cabinet paint too. I think the choice will be between the Natural and the Classic Seal. Bona Naturale will also do this. Imagine if that would have been quartz? Someone posted on here that if you like a just washed look reconsider using matte. You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. It is less than $0.85/sf. so you did one coat of natural and two coats of HD? Was afraid it would look a bit cartoonish or out of place. And this will continue to occur until the finish is "done right". Training costs money. Of course the MORE coats you put on today.the FEWER coats you have to ADD in 15 years time (called a buff and coat and costs $3/sf on average). We are looking for the same - any update on what you ended up using? He is also meeting with Sherwin Williams this weekend at a trade show in Vegas and will see if there are any better options to achieve the Studio McGee look on rift white oak we are all looking for. Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. Here are some of my samples. Thank you for your feedback. @tkgriff which did you go with and do you like? Do you know if Duraseal is found in home stores? Then ask the fabricator about the stone you are considering if it's purchased from a separate slab yard. My kitchen is the opposite of yours with white cabinets and gray countertops and I like the way my natural white oak floors warm it up. My builder said hed work with them even though he never had before and I had several conversations with them. Hi, I know this is 2+ YEARS LATER, What finish did you end up selecting for your parquet floors? How should I adjust these home plans to save $ or improve the layout? Yours looks so light and bright. In real life, they dont have as much brown as in the photo. We ended up using one coat of Bona natural sealer and two coats of HD matte on the floors. It wasnt 3 coats in one day. @Renee Czeryba, my advice: when you test put sealer and finish on top to see how it is really going to look. One that I just came up was someone who posted a picture of their island door with Bona NaturalSeal. @Moran Blueshtein. My installer did 2 coats of Nordic Seal today. I would use Bona natural seal or classic with traffic hd extra matte. Thank you. I disagree that it was not an attack on me as G & Ss follow up comment said, oh yeah, hidden message. If youre really interested, Ill call the installer Brazilian Floors and see if he still has the info. I cannot find any locally. Watching them put it on, it doesnt look like the work applying it would be more than other finish products. WebSome 5 white oak with Bona Natural Seal and Hd traffic extra matte. Bona nordicseal is greenguard certified for indoor air quality. The stain alone does not protect the floors, just adds color. It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. The coating should not come up. We even "fumed" a few boards in a fuming tent, and they just didn't look as good as the waxes/oils. You want someone fully trained in the art of the 2-component (2K) water based system. If they are not able to confirm to you what material it is, then look elsewhere for your countertop fabrication. The more coats you apply, the lighter it becomes. From all Ive read, it seems Bona Traffic HD is the way to go on the finish coats. Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. He can 'cut in' the edges of the floor with a brush, bite a sandwich, chew, take a drink, go toilette, come back and work the job with a T-barand STILL have time to go over several sections if it looks 'dry'. ?-- and liked playing around with it. They both marked, but the oil was harder to see. Did 4 coats of nordic and 3 traffic hd on 1 dollar a sq foot utility 4 inch white oak but some was red oak as well but still my dog likes it. Not quite "honey oak" but not far from it. Are You Gutsy Enough to Paint Your Floor White? I went to the Neolith east coast showroom and actually picked something out I loved but my builders fabricator talked me out of it. Also, how many coats of sealer did you use? Hi everyone! I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. can you share any pix? Our floors were recently finished I havent seen them yet. I havent figured out if Im going to use any window coverings yet. I found a highly recommended company that has experience with placing wood floors in the most humid environments Plenty of high-end homes have wood floors here so someone has to do it & do it well- just find "that" guy! My installer has Amber i think yhat will be too dark. I did call Bona and they assured me that none of the 3 sealers would add "yellow" or "amber" to my floors - but thought I'd also ask here. Of the Bona sealers, NordicSeal looks to white to me and AmberSeal - well the name says it all, trying to stay away from the amber look. Thanks so much in advance!! Unfortunately, we have put our kitchen reno on hold. I am nervous about this and I'm wondering if anyone had trouble with white streaks on their floor? I absolutely love the floors. Ive read quite a few different comments on all 3 and some seem conflicting. Oak floors are beautiful and timeless. Ha. Oil wax floor finishes are poor choices for cabnet finishes. I completely understand the desire to keep it open between the kitchen and lower level because you want to keep the sight lines and feeling--but perhaps you should just "try" closing it off and see how it feels. (BTW - We ran into the issue with getting character grade mixed into our select a bit too, very frustrating!). I do have a lot of experience with these stones because I own a Granite, Quartz and Quartzite company. Right? If you look at my photos above, the wood sample with one coat of Bona Natural sealer and one coat of Matte Traffic HD looked nice too but looked horrible with one coat of Natural and 3 coats of satin Traffic HD. They are still drying and look darker in the photos than they do in person FYI. @mtpo We are also considering the Bona nordic seal on white oak. I hope I get into the house before any subcontractors mess them up again! Finally, I coated half of my sample with their Fortico Satin and I could not see the poly at all. Still a good quality product line, just not the best. Here are some of my samples. It still should not come off. @mtpo sorry to bring this thread back. When he did the sample with a white stain (Duraseal) and my red oak floor turned pink, I stopped the work and started searching for a new guy. Carlyweiss, your post and pictures are so helpful for those of us in the choosing process. Use Bona Naturaseal for the look you want. Ive had 5 character grade white oak installed. And I do find myself wishing I had done 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD - just to give them more protection. Nice, eh?! It will make you happy. They just don't get any DARKER over time. I also read you dont want to go too thin. I knew this was IT. WebChapter IV - Four Eyes Were Reading the Passage I was running the head of my pencil-case along the line as I read it, and something caused me to raise my eyes. I did a larger sample of Unico smoke, covered with their Titan (goes on with a roller) and tested it with salty water, red wine and vinegar. Many, many, many more professional grade finishes. They don't like doing it - because they go through SOOO many screening discs (I've heard of more than 12 discs being used in one home). No one does work for free. And, to be fair to the above poster. There is a haze to the floors as someone posted its most likely due to the matte finish. Can two finish coats be done in a day or should there be a day between all 3 coats? We did samples on floor and two coats looks significantly different. Here is a link of various lighting for At Ease (it's not shiny at all). I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. My guess would be red oak since they have gone more orange.

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